America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle !!!

In response my earlier diary (". . . but don't boo her !!!")
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/17/9829 /90236#readmore
I received (in addition to about 7 inappropriate and uncalled for tip jar TR's from random visiting kos-ites) comments such as this:

". . . I do NOT believe that sexism caused HRC to lose the nomination.  The cause was a poorly run campaign."
http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/17/9 829/90236/76/post#here

Hmmm.  Who ran that "poorly run campaign"?  Why, America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle !!!

"Patti Solis Doyle . . . was a long-time aide to Hillary Rodham Clinton [and] . . . eventually became campaign manager for Hillary Clinton's . . . 2008 Presidential campaign from its inception until she was replaced in February 2008."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patti_Solis _Doyle

In other words, Solis Doyle was one of the originators of the "caucuses don't matter" and "we'll put it away Super Tuesday" strategy.  And, once they dumped her, Hillary started winning.  Frankly, Solis Doyle and Mark Penn are the two reasons Obama is set to be the nominee.

Yet, who does Obama now hire?  Why, Patti Solis Doyle!  To be chief of staff to Obama's vice presidential choice.  The job Hillary wants.

Sorry, that just doesn't pass the smell test.  If it was a poorly run campaign that sexism had nothing to do with, why hire the fired campaign manager who screwed up?  Is that really how you reach out to Hillary staffers?

P.S. - Why are they intentionally trying to alienate Clinton supporters?  This can't all be coincidence, can it?



Display:


Seriously, if the campaign was poorly managed (1.50 / 12)

why hire the manager?  


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 02:56:28 PM EST

Re: Seriously, if the campaign was poorly managed (1.83 / 6)

Why are you so concerned all the time?

Didn't you just write a similiar diary?


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 02:57:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Sorry, but I don't care (2.00 / 2)

about Patti. I just hope she doesn't screw up Obama's GE campaign. I have a feeling he won't let her, though.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 02:59:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Seems unlikely (2.00 / 2)

Chief of staff for the VP candidate isn't exactly a make-or-break position.  Doyle has a ton of experience in that sort of job; I think it's well within her capacity to enact competantly and professionally.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:06:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Alright (2.00 / 3)

now you are just being annoying.  There is not there there with PSD being positioned in the Obama campaign- one supposed bundler for the Clinton campaign gets pissed off and the whole world ends.  Its very likely that this one bundler has no idea what is going on.


PSD's long-time executive assistant runs Vote Both, the estrangement is greatly exaggerated and PSD's new job is such a non-issue.
by linc on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:17:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I'm sure Mark Penn is behind the anonymous sources (1.00 / 1)

Obama had the audacity of seeking the advice of  the former chair of Hillary Clinton for President campaign. What nerve!

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

Senator Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), former chair of the Hillary Clinton for President campaign, released the following statement today after meeting with Democratic nominee Barack Obama's vice-presidential
search team:

"I have assured Senator Obama that I will help him win, and I will help him govern. I was honored to be consulted in one of Senator Obama's first and most important decisions - the selection of his Vice President. This is a critical decision that needs careful consideration. As mandated by this weighty decision, any future discussions I have on the issue will remain confidential."

He really wants to piss of the Clinton's doesn't he!


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:35:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I really, really (none / 0)

dislike Mark Penn...


by linc on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:45:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

She Wasn't Hired ... (2.00 / 1)

... to manage the Obama campaign.

You know (well, apparently you don't, or else you're just being deliberately obtuse) people who get fired from jobs get rehired for the same job.  All the time.  But that's not the case here, because she's not being hired to run a campaign but to manage a small part of a campaign.

Happens all the time.  Take the NFL.  The league has numerous former head coaches who are now offensive or defensive coordinators.  

I know former managers of IT support groups who are now simply computer operators or service desk techs.    

It's really not that mysterious to conclude that a person who was fired as campaign manager might have some talents that are suited to a position other than managing a campaign.

And it's really not that surprising that some people are just insistent on getting all bent over this.  If it wasn't this it would have been something else.  


by Collideascope on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:36:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Seriously, if the campaign was poorly managed (2.00 / 1)

Kosnomore:

Look, I know you are super duper Concerned about Obama.

Well don't worry, he and his staff are a do or die mission to win the white house.

Here is a little inspiration for you Kos, really there is nothing to worry about, we got the most motivated and patriotic campaign America has seen yet:


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:42:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Now now (2.00 / 1)

lets not forget our history.  Its ONE of the most motivate, patriotic, etc... campaigns we have ever seen ;)  


by linc on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:47:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Now now (2.00 / 3)

Linc comeon, give me a bone.

In America everything is always the "BEST" ever, especially in politics.

But I will say and repeat common points that the 2008 campaign was revolutionary and therefore the best, and that includes Hillary as well.

Now Obama did better on the grass/netroots, he did raise more money, but take Obama out of the picture and Hillary easily gets the same award for best ever.

Her fundraising and stumping was way up there and I am sure put Gore and Kerry to shame.

Thank you Barack and thank you Hillary for THE BEST campaign ever.

I am shooting from the hip here but I am pretty sure the fact that Record breaking events such as highest voter turnout in every state,  highest donations (thanks internets)

So linc, if you are still reading, my point is that it isn't the candidates specifically, its us, its the voters, its the media.

all good stuff.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 04:17:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Seriously, if the campaign was poorly managed (2.00 / 1)

I know you're determined to drum up outrage over this issue, but there's really nothing there. We don't need another pointless diary about this.

She's not being hired to run a campaign, she's being hired as chief of staff to the VP candidate. She has Chicago roots. She's worked with Axelrod in the past. She's got experience at that sort of job, and she's good at it. Ask Hillary -- her campaign expressed support for the hire.

Rest assured, I direct this comment at you specifically, and not Hillary supporters in general Get. Over. It.


Conduct your own interview of Sarah Palin!
by fwiffo3 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:46:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

quit Dem-bashing! (2.00 / 1)

if you don't want TR's don't act trollish.

we are tired of dem bashing, MOVE ON!


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 04:00:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Seriously, if the campaign was poorly managed (none / 0)

On Monday, you claimed without evidence that David Axelrod was "sliming" Hillary Clinton "daily."

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/16/1220 37/016

Myself and progressive DL both did research, and both noted that neither google news nor Lexis Nexis offered any support to your claim.  We requested that you offer the support for your belief that this was occuring.

http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/16/1 22037/016/18#18

You failed to offer any support.  All the evidence suggests your statement was false.  Rather than retract a false statement about a Democratic strategist, you chose to leave the smear up.  You should correct it or provide support, unless you're simply a troll.  

As for PSD, she's good at Hispanic outreach, and a good chief of staff, as well as successful at more local campaigning (the 2000 Senate race was no easy feat).  Just because someone has proven to be unable to fulfill a big role does not mean they cannot be a key player in a smaller one.


John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way
by bosdcla14 on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 03:27:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Is this snark? (1.88 / 9)

Serious question.


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 02:56:31 PM EST

Re: Is this snark? (2.00 / 1)

I am starting to think Kosnomore is another parody troll.

Trying to alienate Hillary voters, looks like she doesnt care for unity.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:20:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, (2.00 / 6)

I think you're trying to alienate Clinton supporters as hard as you can.  Your last diary was inflammatory garbage, and this is about as pointless.  Really, I wonder if you are not racking up points at another website.

As you no doubt know, Doyle would not have the same position as she had in the recent Clinton campaign.  But you do like to revel in ignorance.


by rfahey22 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 02:57:40 PM EST

Re: America's newest sweetheart, (none / 0)

Obviously, and what was inappropriate about troll rating a diary full of lies and weird innuendo on a Democratic site about the Democratic nominee?


by Dog Chains on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:01:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, (2.00 / 1)

I think the diarist's concept of unity is that s/he gets to act like a petulant child and the rest of us just have to put up with it.

If you're old enough to post here, you're not a baby any more.


by rfahey22 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:04:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest (2.00 / 1)

She's got a lot of history with Obama's people and is from Chicago herself.  They put her in a spot where she can use her talents without wrecking the joint.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 02:59:42 PM EST

Conflicted and confused (2.00 / 1)

When I first heard about Doyle getting the post, I thought it was good to see someone so deeply associated with the Clintons on board. Now I see it differently. I'm not sure what their motivations were, but I sincerely hope that they were not simply to piss off Hillary. Perhaps they genuinely thought that it would be a good move, perhaps (as some speculated) they promised her a spot and needed to give her a place. Perhaps (as some speculated) they DO intend to offer the nomination to Clinton but want to make sure they still control the message of her campaign. So many different maybes left unanswered. I'm expecting some news this week, I'll be pissed if the biggest news we get is that Al Gore supports the Democratic nominee.


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:00:59 PM EST

think long and hard... (2.00 / 0)

why should the Obama campaign hiring anyone from a formerly inactive campaign piss anyone off?

...and if anyone is pissed off, are their complaints remotely worth listening to?


by Casuist on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 04:03:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

you really should blame Mark Penn (2.00 / 3)

not Patti Doyle-Solis. Hillary Clinton supported her move over to the Obama campaign.


by slinkerwink on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:04:41 PM EST

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (1.75 / 8)

Great diary!
You made some real valid points about this selection of Solis Doyle into the Obama camp.

I believe that the DNC, with the help of Obama, is trying to erase the memory of Bill Clinton from the Democratic Party.  I'm serious.

The level of hostility that came from the Democratic Party itself against Bill Clinton signaled to me that this party has no respect for anyone who has tried to bring about real change in this country.

Under Clinton, there was surpluses and people were making money hand over fist.  Poverty rolls were going down and jobs way up.  The world had a great deal of respect for us and the U.S. was safe.  The DNC is trying to pretend this never happened.

This is why there was only ONE Democratic President of the United States in the last 28 years... and it might be extended to 32 years after November's election.


by stefystef on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:06:40 PM EST

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (1.80 / 5)

I believe that the DNC, with the help of Obama, is trying to erase the memory of Bill Clinton from the Democratic Party.  I'm serious.

I'm sure you're serious.


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:09:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (2.00 / 2)

Erase Bill Clinton?

Are you kidding me, can't wait to see him wave his finger at all the doubters while he stumps.

Its HARD to say no to Bill.

The man is a hero to our party.   But I guess in the world of ulcer-inducing Concern trolling you guys just to be depressed all the time.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:22:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (2.00 / 3)

this party has no respect for anyone who has tried to bring about real change in this country.

Um, that's not a particularly believable interpretation of what just happened in the primary.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:21:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (2.00 / 1)

Oh, good comment, stefystef. You're on your way to one of those sets of McCain golf balls as we speak!

I can only imagine your rage at all the good poll numbers for Obama these days.


by JoeW on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:47:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (2.00 / 2)

He's being erased! Is it going to be like in Back To The Future where Marty McFly slowly fades away?

On noes! I can't see him! Where'd he go!?


Conduct your own interview of Sarah Palin!
by fwiffo3 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:51:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (2.00 / 4)

Patty Solis Doyle is an amazing chief of staff.  Ask Hillary Clinton who was her employer for a very, very long time.

Patty Solis Doyle is universally agreed to be a horrible campaign manager.

So what is her new job title?  Chief of Staff

Oh No, we hired someone for a job they are really good at.


McCain = bad Obama = good
by CAchemist on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:07:18 PM EST

Hillary, being a class act... (2.00 / 4)

...is all in favor of Patti Solis-Doyle working for Obama in that capacity.

Why can't you share Senator Clinton's grace?


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:08:40 PM EST

Re: Hillary, being a class act... (2.00 / 3)

Because the diarist, and many of the other "concerned" commenters here, are actually for John McCain.

Unlike Hillary.


by JoeW on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:48:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I gathered (none / 0)

I always think it's funny that most people with overly-Democratic-sounding handles are so trollish.  In this case, the nick is even tailored to be MyDD specific.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:51:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

It IS a curious move, interesting diary (2.00 / 2)

I don't understand why Obama chose her. There really isn't any good reason for it, and one has two question how this will effect his VP selection.

I have yet to hear a valid reason for picking her. People should actually answer the questions posed, instead of just dismissing them.


by Chelsea in 2020 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:10:04 PM EST

Re: It IS a curious move, interesting diary (none / 0)

We don't know the answers! But the point is that we don't know the answers. So don't assume that it's some sort of deliberately childish and provocative move, possibly the LEAST likely explanation.


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:12:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: It IS a curious move, interesting diary (1.85 / 7)

Well, first, she's not part of the VP vetting committee, so she has no input there.  Second, it's possible that several of the potential VP candidates will not have a staffer who is competent to handle a national campaign off the bat(such as a governor), and so would be unable to hit the ground running after the choice was made.  Third, she brings a lot of experience and competence in certain areas (but not finances) and may be able to help with Latino outreach, so they needed to find a position for her, but most of the core staff positions have already been filled.  Since there currently is no VP candidate, many of those positions are wide open.  

See how easy it is to come up with innocuous reasons behind the move?  None of us are on the inside of the campaign, so all of this speculation is pure BS.  The only difference is that I didn't concoct a conspiracy theory for the sole purpose of trashing the nominee.


by rfahey22 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:22:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: It IS a curious move, interesting diary (none / 0)

why was this troll rated? slip of the mouse?


by Mobar on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:54:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: It IS a curious move, interesting diary (none / 0)

Must have been accidental, if I know the poster at all.


by rfahey22 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 04:04:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: It IS a curious move, interesting diary (none / 0)

Good try, Chelsea.


by JoeW on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:49:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Slightly off topic (none / 0)

anybody else noticed how much easier it is to review the hidden comments list in the past week?


by Mobar on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:13:19 PM EST

Re: Slightly off topic (2.00 / 1)

Yep, just look at kosnomores comment history. That and the hidden comments list are virtually interchangeable.

But meh, who needs site moderators?!?! lol


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:16:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (2.00 / 3)

Mark Penn ran the show. Everybody with functioning matter between their ears knows that.

PSD was the campaign manager for both of Sen. Clinton's successful Senate runs, and was her Chief of Staff while she served as Senator.

PSD was the designated fallguy after Hillary lost Iowa. But it was Mark Penn's idiotic focus on imaginary micro-trends that dehumanized Hillary Clinton, and cost her votes.

But you're probably too busy being outraged to realize that.

BTW, I heard Obama had Shredded Wheat for breakfast this morning. I'm sure you will find something in that bit of info to take offense at.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:15:18 PM EST

Not offence (1.40 / 5)

Concern.

Shredded wheat will NOT play in the bread basket of America, obviously.


by Is This Snark on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:20:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, (none / 0)

Please go away.  Or better yet, support the Democratic Party nominee.


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:16:55 PM EST

Re: America's newest sweetheart, (none / 0)

And miss out on the McCain "My boat's sinking" lapel pin?! Not bloody likely!


by JoeW on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:50:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (2.00 / 1)

HOW DOES THIS MAKE DENNIS KUCINICH FEEL?


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:20:34 PM EST

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

He's riding high profiting from Sexism.

Like one of the PUMAs on TV said:

"While Hillary was getting the tough questions, the BOYZ were being asked about Aliens"

Wow that sexism against Hillary really boosted his career.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:29:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Yawn (none / 0)

aaahh kosnomore, i really wish you were kosnomore - no more. I'm getting really tired of your horse shit. You should try redstate.com you'd probably feel more at home :D


by huwcs on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:25:54 PM EST

Re: Yawn (2.00 / 0)

Common leave her alone,

she is really concerned, and if we dont let her get ALL the concern out of her then we don't love party Unity.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:27:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yawn (none / 0)

LOL.

But there appears to be a limitless Fountain of Concern.


by JoeW on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:51:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

 Sweetheart, I think your diary is just a bit catty.


by xdem on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:26:10 PM EST

Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

P.S. - Why are they intentionally trying to alienate Clinton supporters?  This can't all be coincidence, can it?

Well, what's your theory?  Don't play like you don't have one.  What the hell reason would Obama have for wanting to intentionally alienate Clinton supporters?  

Oh, right, there is no reason.

Hinting darkly at some sketchy motive on Obama's part is pretty much pure bullshit unless you've got any kind of compelling argument to back it up.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:26:14 PM EST

Re: Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

He may want to piss off her supporters NOW instead of later. he may be sending up trial-baloons to see how the reaction is to him picking someone else.

It matters not. If Hillary isn't on the ticket many people will be leaving the party. The campaign will get ugly and McCain will have his opening.

It's funny to see all the Obama supporters say that they would have voted for Hillary and worked hard for her if she won. That's not what I saw for months. It was "if she's the nominee I can't vote for her".

If Hillary didn't put Obama on the ticket the Democratic party would have lost millions of people. I think they will if Hillary isn't on the ticket.


by mmorang on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 05:37:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

He may want to piss off her supporters NOW instead of later. he may be sending up trial-baloons to see how the reaction is to him picking someone else.

But why would he want to intentionally alienate Clinton supporters, as the diarist claims?  It doesn't make any sense.  Maybe he's sending signals to the Clinton camp, or floating trial balloons as you say.  But to suggest that there's some dark motive for him to intentionally drive Clintonites away is, I think, bullshit.

It matters not. If Hillary isn't on the ticket many people will be leaving the party.

And I disagree with this bit of analysis.  No doubt there will be some who would prefer to see the defeat of everything Hillary Clinton stands for than to see somebody else as the Democratic VP nominee.  I just don't think very many.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 05:52:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

Oh, there will be many. Some because they think Obama lacks experience. Some didn't like the "rigged" contest. Others have a problem with the former president and first lady with decades of support for civil rights being accused of race-bating (I fall into that category).

There hasn't been a runner-up (or winner) with 18 million votes. So the defection rate could be huge. Also, the Republicans will be airing commercials highlighting the race-bating that went on in an effort to win McCain some votes. The 527's will fund them.


by mmorang on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 06:21:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

Vote how you want.  I happen to think those are pretty poor reasons to vote against the Clinton agenda, which also happens to be the Obama agenda.  Thank you for putting "rigged" in quotes to indicate that the primary was not, in fact, rigged.

We'll see how many defect.  My guess is that Obama doesn't pick Clinton for VP, the zone between tenuous Democrats-Independents-tenuous Republicans remains as fluid as ever with some crossover in both directions, and Democrats rally around Iraq, the economy, and the Supreme Court.  But who knows.

It's going to be an exciting campaign.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 06:34:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

It will be an exiting campaign, as exciting as watching the Clippers play the Timberwolves in the finals. A race to the bottom. We've nominated an inexperieced first term senator and they've nominated a corpse.

Wow! What excitement!


by mmorang on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 03:40:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Sigh n/t (none / 0)


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 01:19:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

Let me be clear, I don't think Obama would do anything to intentionally lose votes or piss people off. But if he knows Hillary won't be on the ticket and he knows that will piss them off, he might want to do it now so there is time to win them back.


by mmorang on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 03:21:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Kosnomore I am SHOCKED (2.00 / 4)

I am SHOCKED you are not concerned there might be rumors of an affair might come of this.

If anyone forgot, one of the BEST, I mean BEST concern diaries was written by Kosnomore.

Her concern was people would think Obama was fooling around with Scarlett Johansson.

It is CONCERN DIARY GOLD!!!
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/11/1540 15/847
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/11/1540 15/847
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/11/1540 15/847

Now this brings me to why I am shocked.

From what I see in these press photos, Patti is totally hot in her single press photo.

Common Kosnomore,  put a couple thoughts behind it, please rewrite the Scarlet diary but use Patti in it.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:26:51 PM EST

Re: Kosnomore I am SHOCKED (none / 0)

Please please, tell Susan to type it up for you,  It would be so awesome.

Common, Patti is so hot, I am sure it was the chauvinistic message of the Obama cult to fill the administration with nothing but liberal starlets.

I implore readers, if you want to see the best concern diary ever click the above link,


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:57:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Kosnomore I am SHOCKED (1.00 / 1)

Best line :

Urging the campaign to dump a supporter who's saying destructive things to the media?

by kosnomore on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 09:14:00 PM EST
[ Parent | Reply to This |   ]


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 04:06:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Guess who had the MOST responsibility (2.00 / 0)

for Clinton's campaign?

Hillary Clinton!!!!

Therefore, it would be an insult to Hillary Clinton and her supporters to put Hillary Clinton on the ticket.

/snark


by Geekesque on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 03:49:45 PM EST

I should just give up (2.00 / 1)

There are many Clinton supporters who fricking GET IT. They wanted HRC because they felt she would the best candidate to move this country forward. Between Obama and Clinton, I disagree, but I highly respect their reason for supporting her. Those people are prioritizing the country above all else. And to those, people, THANK YOU. And that's not hollow gratitude.

And then there's Clinton supporters who are turning this whole process into a damn soap opera. Hillary Clinton is the hero and Barack Obama is the evil twin black (non-identical) twin brother.

Time after time after time Obama has gone out of his way to be cordial and compliment her.

From his website:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/thankyo uHRC?source=feature_thankyou
Senator Clinton made history over the past 16 months -- not just because she has broken barriers, but because she has inspired millions of Americans with her strength, her courage, and her commitment to causes like universal health care that make a difference in the lives of hardworking Americans.

Take a minute to thank her for her hard work and for supporting this campaign.

In his speech last night, in MANY speeches he would always compliment her. Even during the campaign he would always congratulate her on her victories. Even during the debates, in the midst of "change you can Zerox", "he would NOT have been my pastor!", "elistist and out of touch and patronizing", even trying to link him to Weatherman and Lewis Farrakhan...

When asked about the sniper issue he had this to say:

But, look, the fact of the matter is, is that both of us are working as hard as we can to make sure that we're delivering a message to the American people about what we would do as president. Sometimes that message is going to be imperfectly delivered because we are recorded every minute of every day.

And I think Senator Clinton deserves the right to make some errors once in a while. Obviously, I make some as well.



Gobama!
by USArmyParatrooper on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 04:32:21 PM EST

If you aren't actively seeking McCain points... (none / 0)

you should look into it.  It'd be a shame to throw away free golf balls.


4 years of McCain = 4 more years of Bush.
by ashriver on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 04:38:28 PM EST

Grudgenomore (none / 0)

Oh, I guess you're right.  That's it.  I am hereby endorsing McCain.  Maybe if we all endorse McCain diaries like this, of such dubious (or at least obscure) aims, will disappear...


The future is unwritten
by Strummerson on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 04:46:51 PM EST

Her brother is an alderman (none / 0)

who has a nickname among his constituents - Ald. Sleeze, not Solis.

Now this has nothing to do with Patti really - it shouldn't reflect on her - but we will be getting into  Chicago politics soon with the move to Chicago and you may want to know more about the players.  

He is, like many aldermen in Chicago - in the pockets of developers - He sold out his own people in the Pilsen neighborhood.  


by Xanthe on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 04:57:50 PM EST

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

Problem was, Mark Penn was the one actually running things, no matter what the titles said.

Doyle did a great job delivering the Latino vote for Hillary, and that will be an area of concern come the fall.

Also, Patti was the one, from all reports, who wanted to stay positive, instead we got Mark "Cocaine" Penn advising  the other route.

We know who won the day.

I think, personally, she got scapegoated.


by Searching For Pericles on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 05:00:22 PM EST

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

hey there, how did Patti get the latino vote?

Was that through connections to community organizers.

I only ask because from what I can tell she never showed her face once on the campain trail or to the media.

I looked on youtube and google, there are no pictures or video of her out there.

Im not being sarcastic, I keep hearing she delivered latinos and will for Barack and I ask how.

thanks for any feedback.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 05:21:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Stop. (none / 0)

Drop it.  Please.  The primary is over, and honestly, it's been over since February.  Mark Penn was the person who poorly executed Hillary's campaign.  Hillary is the person who followed him.  So the fault for losing lies with her and Penn.  How is that sexist?  Please stop posting this crap.  Perhaps you could take a break for a few days?


by brathor on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 05:15:26 PM EST

Re: America's newest sweetheart, Patti Solis Doyle (none / 0)

When the Clinton campaign realized that they were doing badly, they fired Patti Solis Doyle.


That had no positive impact. Only after Mark Penn stepped down did the Clinton campaign improve.


They fired the woman when the big man was to blame.


Obama hires the woman. Ergo Obama is a sexist.


by french imp on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 05:27:07 PM EST

Patti Solis Doyle (2.00 / 2)

a bonehead pick and makes it look like she purposefully underplayed the caucus states, while being best friends with Axle, and now she's being rewarded because she did a great job, for Barack.  And it's a stupid insult, I'm a Hillary supporter who'll not just vote the nominee but who'll feel bummed and ripped off if Barack loses to John.  And he wants to insult me?  Why?  Can there possibly be a point to this?  


Hillary - alternative energy
by anna shane on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 05:29:18 PM EST

Re: Patti Solis Doyle (2.00 / 1)

Thats a lot of subjective opinion you are stating as fact.

Noone blames her, everyone blames Penn.

Why DID Hillary hire him, when he has stabbed her in the back at every turn.

When did Patti choose working for foreign governments for quick cash was more important than the campaign.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 05:33:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Patti Solis Doyle (2.00 / 2)

In my reading of it, I didn't see any facts. I saw an opinion. Which is still legal to have, I think.


by Scotch on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 08:52:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Patti Solis Doyle !!! (1.50 / 2)

If they didn't do it to send a message, then why did they?  The message I got was disrespect for Clinton and her supporters.  The more things change the more they stay the same........


by Scotch on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 08:51:09 PM EST

America's "newest sweetheart"? really? (none / 0)

I have said it before and I'll say it again. As an American male, I am deeply confused as to what does and doesn't constitute sexism. 6 months ago, I wouldn't have blinked at this diary's title. Now I wonder, "Would a Mark Penn hire have gotten the 'sweetheart' label?".

This is part of why it continues, no one knows when the hell it's happening. I sure don't.


by Neef on Tue Jun 17, 2008 at 09:02:34 PM EST


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